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15 January 2008 @ 09:07 pm
The oldest of all world philosophies  
I just engaged in an interesting email discussion with a younger cousin who has been largely shielded from ontological reality by a man who seems to think (in the words of Bill Maher) that the Flintstones is a documentary. My cousin was under the distorted impression that Christianity was somehow "one of the oldest religions on earth". I quickly regurgitated the relative ages of various world philosophies along with the great antiquity of eastern philosophies, but I came to a conclusion that's new to me but that I thought might be fun to share with you.

I think the oldest philosophy on earth is the one shared by the people who just don't know what the hell is going on. We're constantly befuddled and confused by everything. The world still confounds us. I have enough trouble figuring out my monthly budget let alone weighing all the evidence for the Big Questions. I keep my mind open, I remain in a position of doubt, I am suspicious of any conviction or conclusion I come to because I'm far too well aware of my own infinite capacity for ignorance in the face of unknowns. But I play with ideas. I research things. I consider the possibility (though not probability or even potentiality) that lasagna can fly (in the words of Dr. Wilson -- I should add this is Dr. Bob Wilson, not the hot Dr. Wilson who is House's secret love monkey). That keeps me happy and my mind working (and a busy brain is one not decaying into an aging one). Though the default "central" (government/social) mode should always be doubt (despite what Pastor Huckabee was spewing today) because we simply can't be certain of anything else, I think there's room to wonder in our own individual minds.

So let's hear it for those of us who just don't know/don't care. We're the ones who keep the fundamentalists honest. lol That said, what it comes down to is I'm clearly just not smart enough to come to any final conclusions about the world. Everything still makes me wonder. But that keeps me and my inner moron from straying too far and thereby looking like an even bigger ass than I already do sometimes.

Democratic debate tonight was tryptophan TV. Thought Edwards did well. H/W final segment tomorrow or the next day. Adiós hasta mañana.
 
 
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Susan[info]lil_shepherd on January 16th, 2008 06:16 am (UTC)
I think the oldest philosophy on earth is the one shared by the people who just don't know what the hell is going on.

Or is the oldest the one shared by those who don't care what is going on?

Melody Clark: dr bear[info]melodyclark on January 16th, 2008 07:24 am (UTC)
It's probably a shared vision -- we deal with our own reality. Some wonder beyond the next hill, some don't. What we have in common is we don't try to foist our vision off on others via laws and edicts meant to establish what can probably not be proven in the first place.

That was sort of the point I was getting at in this line:
>So let's hear it for those of us who just don't know/don't care.

Those who don't care keep us grounded to the immediate questions and those who don't know leave room to wonder about things.

I honestly don't care what anyone believes. It's none of my business so long as they don't try to force it on me.


Edited at 2008-01-16 07:28 am (UTC)
Susan[info]lil_shepherd on January 16th, 2008 09:50 am (UTC)
I honestly don't care what anyone believes. It's none of my business so long as they don't try to force it on me.

Precisely. And, can I add, force it on other people, not just me. Which is why I can be allowed to be scared and angry...

Melody Clark: sad[info]melodyclark on January 16th, 2008 10:09 am (UTC)
The minute they take the issues to the voting booth (and that's what has happened today with this knuckle-dragging Republican Presidential candidate Huckabee trying to force Christianity into our federal constitution, which is what triggered this whole blog post, aside from my cousin trying to defend him), that's what they are doing. I don't care if Huckabee and his ilk congregate behind a garage and worship a pile of hamster dung, quite frankly. However, when they start telling me that the hamster poop is speaking to them and telling them what I have to do or what someone else has to do, I draw the line.

They frighten and anger me, too, believe me. I'm on the verge of cutting off contact with the fundie branch of my family over this garbage.
Susan[info]lil_shepherd on January 16th, 2008 10:11 am (UTC)
Over on [info]atheism they were talking abour having T-shirts made up that said

I h8 Huckabee

I rather like that.

Edited at 2008-01-16 10:11 am (UTC)
Melody Clark: smile[info]melodyclark on January 16th, 2008 10:40 am (UTC)
lol -- oooh, I want one.
Monica Rose: listen to the color of your dreams[info]carose59 on January 16th, 2008 11:54 am (UTC)
I started a comment, but it ran wildly out of control, so watch for a new post, coming soon. You'll recognize it by the way it runs wildly out of control. *g*
Melody Clark: dr bear[info]melodyclark on January 16th, 2008 02:01 pm (UTC)
My friend, if my posts don't run wildly out of control, I check to make sure I'm on my own blog. lol
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Melody Clark: playfair[info]melodyclark on January 18th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC)
Re: Assissotom
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